[ Even with Hythlo's side of the story, it seemed that hey thought they could bring them back. Hien views this as cheating death, and perhaps they made light of what a sacrifice truly meant until it was too late. Though, he doesn't show any outward signs of anger. He's already had his time to do that.
[Hythlo returns Hien's nod with one of his own, almost absent-mindedly.]
We succeeded. Life returned once again. We... could start to rebuild. I thought it was the most joyful moment after all the horror we've lived through. Yet... what did restoring our homes and cities mean with no people to populate them? The question of returning our brethren to us was raised... and for the first time, we stood divided. The Convocation ruled that we would raise enough of the new life until it could be given to Zodiark in exchange for the souls that were first given to comprise him. Many disagreed, saying there has been enough loss already. They... went on to create their own goddess, mold her out of their own lives. Hydaelyn. Zodiark's counterpart, one meant to stop him. They clashed, giants in the sky.
[He looks away to the side, looking more tired than he has ever been, drained of emotion at this point.]
'Twas... terrifying. To know that our people could stand against each other to such extent. 'Twas in the aftermath of their fight that I died. Before I could... before I could do aught to pay for the things I've done.
[ Hien quietly breathes out. Alright. He thinks he understands now, more or less. Both versions line up with Hythlo filling in most of the details that Joss probably didn't know. It's better to have a witness at the scene to retell it, after all. ]
[Hythlo nods, despite the mounting anxiety in his heart. It's scary... but at the same time it's much better than leaving it rotting in secret forever. He would rather it be over with.]
[ what the ever living fuck were your people thinking hythlo--no he's not that mean
Hien tries to piece things together, so it takes a second for him to form his thoughts into a question. ]
I get that Hydaelyn was the opposing force for Zodiark, but why did they feel the need to summon her? Was Zodiark actively doing something that they didn't like? I thought his role was over apart from them debating to return the souls.
[ So, basically... Hien doesn't see the point of summoning Hydaelyn if Zodiark wasn't really doing anything after his job was done. ]
[Hythlo frowns, putting a hand to his chin. That... was not the question he was expecting.]
They... feared that Zodiark would only keep taking more and more from us. And that if they did not destroy him, the Convocation would go forward with the plan to sacrifice the new lives...
But it wasn't that Zodiark took their lives by force, right? It only did what it was told after receiving the required energy, if I'm understanding this correctly...
[ They sacrificed them. The Convocation? Whoever decides this stuff. ]
[Hythlodaeus nods slowly. To tell the truth, he's no longer sure how reliable his own memory is.]
I... I do not truly know. Mayhaps...
[His expression grows darker.]
Zodiark was not simply a tool, but a living creature in his own right. I think... they might have feared what would happen once we had one entity with power over all of us. After all, our people ever sought to maintain balance...
So... two entities are better than one? Even though they summoned Hydaelyn to vanquish Zodiark? Wouldn't it just be one entity with power over everyone all over again?
[ Hien wonders at this point if there was some conspiracy and brainwashing things going on behind the scenes that Hythlo doesn't know about, because it feels like everything aligned too well for it to fuck up tremendously and cause their own downfall. ]
[The more Hien asks, the more lost and worried Hythlo looks.]
I think... I think they might have thought she would simply shackle him. Restore the balance... so that neither of them could truly have power over us again. I... do not know...
[ Maybe this is just what Hythlo needed, a third party who can look past the war crimes aspect and tell him just what exactly feels wrong about all this. Hien doesn't feel like it's worthy of a eureka moment or anything though. He just finds all of this strange to begin with, even if Hythlo's people thought self-sacrifice was the way to go as Mass Panic Button.
He was about to ask if Hythlo could inquire Joss or Rhel about this, but Joss said that he didn't know all that well, so that's probably moot. Maybe Rhel does...? Though Hien isn't sure how involved she is in all this--he only knows that she's from a similar place. ]
That's... weird.
[ Because why would they resort to self-sacrifice over a flimsy "what-if"? Hien doesn't say this part out loud, because, well. Hythlo. ]
[He stares at the floor again, stunned by the enormity of the thought. Did that offend him? He's not sure at all how he feels about anything anymore. But at the same time...
Hythlo shakes his head, brings up a hand to his chest, clutching at the fabric of his clothes.]
It... It would make sense. For so long I asked myself why it was that the world turned upon us. What we've done to deserve all the suffering we've gone through, the fate that we barely escaped. But... if there was some will behind it...
[It makes it easier, so much easier... if much harder in other ways. Hythlodaeus goes cold with the realization that maybe--maybe preventing the Final Days would not be enough, if there is something that aims to destroy their world. Once again, would it not be simply dealing with consequences and not the root cause?
He raises his head to look up at Hien, breathing slowly despite the thundering of his heart. In a strange sense, he looks more alive than he has ever done.]
[ Hien exists as an enabler. He's usually all for supporting people and helping them along in doing what they do, but there's something about this that doesn't sit well with him. Granted, Hythlo now has a new possibility opened up to him, and that's whether someone had manipulated an entire species to die out.
...
He's not sure if this is a good thing. Hien actually looks concerned. ]
Hien, I was... content to just let myself fade away eventually, mayhaps a tad more happily than I would have done otherwise. Or I would have done--something to try and save my world. But what if you are right? What if preventing the Final Days won't change anything? What would be the point of all my effort, then? Of all our efforts? I wish to know the truth. No, I need to know it. It may be horrible. It may break me. But the truth is better than this--this nebulous, listless existence.
[He clenches his fists tight. The last time... the last time he remembers feeling like this was in that moment when Atsushi pulled him back from the brink of suicide.]
[ Hien stays quiet. He's glad, in a sense, that Hythlo now has a sense of purpose without being consumed by his perpetual sadness. But is this... is this right? Hien knows better than to fret over rights and wrongs, but...
... ]
If that is what you have decided for yourself, I'll support you.
[And, just like that, regular Hythlo is back, a smile breaking over the earlier seriousness like sunrise. He looks... truly hopeful, for the first time.]
Thank you, Hien. It won't be an easy journey, but... I owe it to them. To my friends. To everyone...
[He inclines his head readily for the pat, still smiling. It seems to be partly the high that comes after intense emotions and relief, but at the same time his hopefulness is genuine.]
I am too. I am... so thankful, Hien. I feel like I can... move forward again.
Me too. Moving forward is one of the best things you can do. I'm proud of you.
[ He gives Hythlo a hug for good measure.
Admittedly, it feels a little strange to just... easily solve Hythlo's sadness in such a quick method, but he knows not everything is actually solved. But as long as Hythlo can move forward, that's what should matter more, right?
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Date: 2020-11-30 03:58 am (UTC)He nods, signaling for Hythlo to continue. ]
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Date: 2020-11-30 04:14 am (UTC)We succeeded. Life returned once again. We... could start to rebuild. I thought it was the most joyful moment after all the horror we've lived through. Yet... what did restoring our homes and cities mean with no people to populate them? The question of returning our brethren to us was raised... and for the first time, we stood divided. The Convocation ruled that we would raise enough of the new life until it could be given to Zodiark in exchange for the souls that were first given to comprise him. Many disagreed, saying there has been enough loss already. They... went on to create their own goddess, mold her out of their own lives. Hydaelyn. Zodiark's counterpart, one meant to stop him. They clashed, giants in the sky.
[He looks away to the side, looking more tired than he has ever been, drained of emotion at this point.]
'Twas... terrifying. To know that our people could stand against each other to such extent. 'Twas in the aftermath of their fight that I died. Before I could... before I could do aught to pay for the things I've done.
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Date: 2020-11-30 04:18 am (UTC)... Can I ask you a question?
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Date: 2020-11-30 04:20 am (UTC)Of course.
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Date: 2020-11-30 04:25 am (UTC)what the ever living fuck were your people thinking hythlo--no he's not that meanHien tries to piece things together, so it takes a second for him to form his thoughts into a question. ]
I get that Hydaelyn was the opposing force for Zodiark, but why did they feel the need to summon her? Was Zodiark actively doing something that they didn't like? I thought his role was over apart from them debating to return the souls.
[ So, basically... Hien doesn't see the point of summoning Hydaelyn if Zodiark wasn't really doing anything after his job was done. ]
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Date: 2020-11-30 04:30 am (UTC)They... feared that Zodiark would only keep taking more and more from us. And that if they did not destroy him, the Convocation would go forward with the plan to sacrifice the new lives...
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Date: 2020-11-30 04:34 am (UTC)[ They sacrificed them. The Convocation? Whoever decides this stuff. ]
So why was there fear...?
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Date: 2020-11-30 04:51 am (UTC)I... I do not truly know. Mayhaps...
[His expression grows darker.]
Zodiark was not simply a tool, but a living creature in his own right. I think... they might have feared what would happen once we had one entity with power over all of us. After all, our people ever sought to maintain balance...
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Date: 2020-11-30 04:55 am (UTC)[ Hien wonders at this point if there was some conspiracy and brainwashing things going on behind the scenes that Hythlo doesn't know about, because it feels like everything aligned too well for it to fuck up tremendously and cause their own downfall. ]
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Date: 2020-11-30 04:57 am (UTC)I think... I think they might have thought she would simply shackle him. Restore the balance... so that neither of them could truly have power over us again. I... do not know...
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Date: 2020-11-30 05:08 am (UTC)He was about to ask if Hythlo could inquire Joss or Rhel about this, but Joss said that he didn't know all that well, so that's probably moot. Maybe Rhel does...? Though Hien isn't sure how involved she is in all this--he only knows that she's from a similar place. ]
That's... weird.
[ Because why would they resort to self-sacrifice over a flimsy "what-if"? Hien doesn't say this part out loud, because, well. Hythlo. ]
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Date: 2020-11-30 05:23 am (UTC)Do you... think there was something else at play?..
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Date: 2020-11-30 05:34 am (UTC)[ ... ]
I'm really sorry, if that offended you. I didn't mean to.
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Date: 2020-11-30 05:46 am (UTC)[He stares at the floor again, stunned by the enormity of the thought. Did that offend him? He's not sure at all how he feels about anything anymore. But at the same time...
Hythlo shakes his head, brings up a hand to his chest, clutching at the fabric of his clothes.]
It... It would make sense. For so long I asked myself why it was that the world turned upon us. What we've done to deserve all the suffering we've gone through, the fate that we barely escaped. But... if there was some will behind it...
[It makes it easier, so much easier... if much harder in other ways. Hythlodaeus goes cold with the realization that maybe--maybe preventing the Final Days would not be enough, if there is something that aims to destroy their world. Once again, would it not be simply dealing with consequences and not the root cause?
He raises his head to look up at Hien, breathing slowly despite the thundering of his heart. In a strange sense, he looks more alive than he has ever done.]
I shall find out.
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Date: 2020-11-30 05:54 am (UTC)...
He's not sure if this is a good thing. Hien actually looks concerned. ]
Daeus, I... could be wrong, you know.
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Date: 2020-11-30 06:02 am (UTC)I... I know. I understand. But--
[Hythlo bites his lip.]
Hien, I was... content to just let myself fade away eventually, mayhaps a tad more happily than I would have done otherwise. Or I would have done--something to try and save my world. But what if you are right? What if preventing the Final Days won't change anything? What would be the point of all my effort, then? Of all our efforts? I wish to know the truth. No, I need to know it. It may be horrible. It may break me. But the truth is better than this--this nebulous, listless existence.
[He clenches his fists tight. The last time... the last time he remembers feeling like this was in that moment when Atsushi pulled him back from the brink of suicide.]
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Date: 2020-11-30 06:10 am (UTC)... ]
If that is what you have decided for yourself, I'll support you.
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Date: 2020-11-30 06:17 am (UTC)Thank you, Hien. It won't be an easy journey, but... I owe it to them. To my friends. To everyone...
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Date: 2020-11-30 06:20 am (UTC)[ He smiles at Hythlo a little and gives him a gentle pat on the head after adjusting his own position so that he can reach. ]
I'm glad I could help you sort things out.
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Date: 2020-11-30 06:29 am (UTC)I am too. I am... so thankful, Hien. I feel like I can... move forward again.
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Date: 2020-11-30 07:13 am (UTC)[ He gives Hythlo a hug for good measure.
Admittedly, it feels a little strange to just... easily solve Hythlo's sadness in such a quick method, but he knows not everything is actually solved. But as long as Hythlo can move forward, that's what should matter more, right?
...
Right? ]